Subject: Epic
From: "John DeLoche" <[email-masked]>
To: "Julianna Smoot" <[email-masked]>, "Hunter Biden" <[email-masked]>, "Eric Schwerin" <[email-masked]>, "Rob Walker" <[email-masked]>, "Neil Callahan" <[email-masked]>, "William Lee" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:43:15 -0500

FYI below. Do we have any contacts at the EMR company Epic? Counsyl could use some help there.  

Thanks,

John 

> From: Ramji Srinivasan <[email-masked]>
> Date: June 15, 2014 at 9:02:20 PM CDT
> To: John DeLoche <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: Theranos
> 
> That's a yellow flag; let's see how the test results are ... I'm going thru as a guinea pig 
> 
> Separately, do you have any senior BD or leadership contacts at epic?  
> 
> http://www.epic.com/about-index.php
> 
> We are getting stalled on a few emr integrations for large volume accounts and want to establish a higher level contact who can help push these through.  (We pay epic for these integrations but the pace has been slow.  We would like to get a senior relationship in place and possibly a package deal.)
> 
> I'll check with other investors too but wanted to see if we had any leads here 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 16:52, John DeLoche <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> 
>> I heard they were not showing any of their financial data during the last fundraise (we were called by a multi family office regarding participating but declined as it sounded like it conflicts with you). It's all from family offices I believe and people who have not really done due diligence. I think they are still quite small despite the enormous hype. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Ramji Srinivasan <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been hearing about them for the past 10 years but will reserve judgment once I see the data
>>> 
>>> Overall, if it works, could represent a hypothetical threat to Labcorp
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 8:46, John DeLoche <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How Do you view these guys competitively? http://fortune.com/2014/06/12/theranos-blood-holmes/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhon