Subject: Re: Arkansas flag and Robert E Lee day
From: Adrienne Elrod <[email-masked]>
To: Jennifer Palmieri <[email-masked]>
Cc: Tina Flournoy <[email-masked]>, Angel Urena <[email-masked]>, Karen Finney <[email-masked]>, Nick Merrill <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>, Huma Abedin <[email-masked]>, John Podesta <[email-masked]>, John Podesta <[email-masked]>, Marlon Marshall <[email-masked]>, Jake Sullivan <[email-masked]>, Maya Harris <[email-masked]>, Robby Mook <[email-masked]>, Brian Fallon <[email-masked]>, Tony Carrk <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:48:50 -0400

Just spoke to Leader Armstrong. He spoke to Anne - flag and legislation WJC
signed as gov did not come up.

Anne just got his take on how he thought she's handled race relations
throughout her time in public service. He talked about her work in
Arkansas, applauded her USCM speech, etc.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Jennifer Palmieri <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Yes, please.
>
> Plus Adrienne who heard from Eddie.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Tina Flournoy <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
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>  Eddie’s a friend if you want us to talk to him.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jennifer Palmieri [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2015 5:29 PM
> *To:* Angel Urena
> *Cc:* Tina Flournoy; Karen Finney; Nick Merrill; [email-masked];
> Huma Abedin; John Podesta; John Podesta; Marlon Marshall; Jake Sullivan;
> Maya Harris; Robby Mook; Brian Fallon; Tony Carrk;
> [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: Arkansas flag and Robert E Lee day
>
>
>
> I think we need to clarify for Bloomberg and WAPO what these bills were
> and were not.  Angel and Craig - Anne Gearan called Eddie Armstrong in
> Arkansas to talk about HRC so she may be getting into the flag, too.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Angel Urena <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
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> I just got the following from Bloomberg:
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>
> Hi Angel,
>
>
>
>   Give all the attention on South Carolina and the Confederate flag being
> flown on state grounds there, I'm wondering about President Clinton's take
> on the SC flag and also on the Arkansas flag which, according to a law he
> signed in 1987, includes a star that symbolizes the Confederacy (
> ftp://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/acts/1987/Public/116.pdf). Does he still
> support that flag design and the symbolism of it? Or does he think it's
> time to change?
>
>
>
>   Thanks,
>
> Jennifer
>
> Jennifer Epstein
> Correspondent
> Bloomberg Politics
> 212 617 8689
> 973 495 9657
> twitter.com/jeneps
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Tina Flournoy <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>  Ok – here you go.
>
>
>
> 1986 was the Arkansas State Sesquicentennial – 150 years since it was
> admitted into the union.  The legislature did not meet until 1987. In honor
> of the sesquicentennial – apparently a number of bills were signed –
> officially establishing the state song, state bird, state flag etc.  Thus
> solving the mystery of why this came up again since the flag design with
> the star for CSA was handled in 1924.  WJC signed a whole packet of them
> including the one about the flag.  I’m getting the whole packet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jennifer Palmieri [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2015 2:53 PM
> *To:* Tina Flournoy
> *Cc:* Karen Finney; Nick Merrill; [email-masked]; Angel Urena;
> Huma Abedin; John Podesta; John Podesta; Marlon Marshall; Jake Sullivan;
> Maya Harris; Robby Mook; Brian Fallon; Tony Carrk;
> [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: Arkansas flag and Robert E Lee day
>
>
>
> Adding Tony and Christina to share the background we have found on the
> issue.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Tina Flournoy <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
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>  I have someone looking through WJC’s Governor’s papers now. Will revert
>
>
>
> *From:* Karen Finney [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2015 2:01 PM
> *To:* Nick Merrill
> *Cc:* Tina Flournoy; [email-masked]; Jennifer Palmieri; Angel
> Urena; Huma Abedin; John Podesta; John Podesta; Marlon Marshall; Jake
> Sullivan; Maya Harris; Robby Mook; Brian Fallon
> *Subject:* Re: Arkansas flag and Robert E Lee day
>
>
>
> We can push back on Jake on the star; frankly the revelvant question about
> Robert E Lee Day is whether or not HRC and WJC support ending the holiday
> and the other states where it is celebrated.  (I dont think Jake will care
> shy it was created in the first place in terms of whether or not he chooses
> to talk about it)There is a movement pushing for abolishing the holdiday
> and all others related to the confederacy.  So a statement denouncing all
> would shut down this piecemeal oppo push.
>
>
>
> Would also like to say something publicly before HRC does the JJ dinner in
> Arkansas so it doesn't become a will she or wont she narrative leading up
> to the dinner.
>
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> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Nick Merrill <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> If there is revisionist history going on and good reason on the
> combining of holidays I think that's worth explaining against Jake's
> uncorroborated oppo he's being fed.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Tina Flournoy <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> He's just inaccurate -- the additional star on the flag for the
> Confederacy was added in 1924.  Neither I nor anyone I've talked to in
> Arkansas (including WJC) knows what the rationale was behind the 1987
> deal - - though something WJC said has given me a thread to look into.
>
> And if you want to know the rationale for combining Robert E. Lee and
> MLK - happy to explain.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:16 PM
> To: Jennifer Palmieri
> Cc: Tina Flournoy; Angel Urena; Karen Finney; Nick Merrill; Huma
> Abedin; John Podesta; John Podesta; Marlon Marshall; Jake Sullivan;
> Maya Harris; Robby Mook; Brian Fallon
> Subject: Re: Arkansas flag and Robert E Lee day
>
>
> FYI - Tapper just followed up just now with the below note. My sense
> is his hosting CNN's Republican debate and the criticism he got for
> doing CGI is contributing to his keeping at this one.
>
> From Tappper:
>
> "Just confirming that you’re not going to have any comment on steps
> President Clinton took during his gubernatorial tenure to honor the
> Confederacy – designating one of the stars (among many) on the
> Arkansas flag in honor of the Confederacy, and separate measures to
> honor Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee.
>
> I’m not saying that steps taking in the 80s to honor the Confederacy
> are the same exact thing as waving the rebel flag at the state house
> in South Carolina today.
>
> But honoring the Confederacy is what it is, and it seems reasonable to
> ask about that.
>
> Thoughts?"
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 20, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Jennifer Palmieri <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > Thought it was a good idea to link up chains and level set with
> > everyone on Arkansas press issues.
> >
> > Someone moved oppo research today designed to put WJC and HRC in a
> > tough spot by noting that the Arkansas flag has a confederate star on
> > it and WJC signed legislation making a Robert E. Lee holiday in 1987.
> > I believe there is legislation in the Arkansas legislature to repeal
> > the holiday.
> >
> > There has been some limited activity on Twitter about this and we have
> > only gotten one question from Jake Tapper.  (We are not responding to
> > him tonight.). So I don't think this is something we need to resolve
> > tonight but the issue could hang around and HRC could get asked about
> > it - so worth thinking about potential responses.
> >
> > The Robert E Lee  question has popped up now and then, going back to
> > WH days.  As far as we can discern, we have never engaged in a
> > substantive way.
> >
> > Team WJC - when ready, would you let us know your all thoughts on how
> > and if we should engage on these questions?  I imagine making a
> > decision on the Arkansas flag and the holiday repeal may make for
> > complicated politics back home - so understand this is tricky and
> > could take time to figure out.
> >
> > We will stand by on our end, or happy to do a call tomorrow to talk
> through.
> >
> > HRC has an event at a black church on Tuesday in St Louis, for awareness.
> >
> > Thanks, all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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>

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Adrienne K. Elrod
Spokesperson
Hillary For America
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