Subject: Re: Cadillac tax
From: "Ann O'Leary" <[email-masked]>
To: Jennifer Palmieri <[email-masked]>
Cc: Robby Mook <[email-masked]>, Brian Fallon <[email-masked]>, John Podesta <[email-masked]>, Joel Benenson <[email-masked]>, Mandy Grunwald <[email-masked]>, Jake Sullivan <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 16:50:19 -0700

Will do

Ann O’Leary
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On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Jennifer Palmieri <[email-masked]>
wrote:

Excellent

Let's do.

Ann - can you get on 930 pm prep call with her?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]> wrote:

Jen/Brian - HRC would like to go with the Senate Dem version of repeal with
no caveats but strong message that it must be paid for and R version
without pay for is unacceptable. Meet the Press worthy? If so, I want to
work with Nikki and Amanda to set it up with unions.

Ann O’Leary
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On Sep 26, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Robby Mook <[email-masked]> wrote:

I vote for repeal!

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> The idea is to go back to her 2008 position, which was that we should not
> be subsidizing higher earners on their health plans. But I agree that we
> will not be gaining much revenue nor will we be getting health savings by
> taking this position so and maybe cleaner just to go for repeal. The
> problem is that there are number of people who think that is a step too
> far. Let me check with her and get back on this chain after I hear back.
>
>
> Ann O’Leary
> Sent from my iPhone
> (510) 717-5518 (cell)
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Brian Fallon <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Can I ask what headline we are seeking with this? Because it strikes me as
> a clever attempt to be both for and against the cadillac tax. Why arent we
> just for outright repeal if we are going to cede back all the revenue
> anyway by holding <250k harmless?
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2015, Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it is more Q of political question - if we need to do it for
>> political reason, this may be good venue. John - What do you think about
>> getting out there on it tomorrow?
>>
>>
>> Ann O’Leary
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (510) 717-5518 (cell)
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Jennifer Palmieri <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't pass bar of news that would break through emails.  So I don't
>> know that it is worth the effort.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jen/Brian - Do you all want to try to land repeal of Cadillac tax +
>> applying tax to $250K and above on MTP? Need to lock it with HRC and set it
>> up with unions if we are going to pull trigger tomorrow. Please advise.
>>
>>
>> Ann O’Leary
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (510) 717-5518 (cell)
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Jennifer Palmieri <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> It also will not break through as big news on MTP.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 2:27 PM, John Podesta <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> I think we will pay a huge price with the WH on this one. Worries me.
>> On Sep 26, 2015 1:13 PM, "Ann O'Leary" <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +Podesta
>>> Califf the Obama nominee does have real ties to the drug industry -
>>> Chris Jennings is calling a few people for me to learn more so we don't tip
>>> our hand directly. We are clean on Clinton Admin FDA Commissioner - it was
>>> David Kessler, an academic who had run a teaching hospital - and best known
>>> for taking on big tobacco.  We could certainly signal that we want someone
>>> willing to stand up to Pharma (in the same way Kessler stood up to Tobacco).
>>>
>>> BUT - I want to do a little more digging and due diligence before we hit
>>> this guy.  Having been through a nomination fight with my husband (in which
>>> he lost), this is personal and messy and horrible on the person nominated
>>> and their families - so I don't take attacking this guy lightly.
>>>
>>> Do you want to do it on Meet the Press?
>>>
>>> Also, as long as I have all of your attention - on Cadillac Tax - the
>>> general consensus is that we should frame our position as Cadillac Tax
>>> should be repealed but that we should tax people who make more than $250K
>>> b/c they don't need to have tax-payer funded subsidies.  I have not nailed
>>> this down with HRC.  Should I try to do that today if we are going to
>>> announce this on Meet the Press?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jake Sullivan <
>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Better go look at WJC administration FDA nominees.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Jake Sullivan <
>>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is ultimately a political call, not a policy call.  I don't
>>>>> really like the idea of bashing this White House's nominees, knowing their
>>>>> vetting process and standards.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if you guys want to do it, I cannot identify a policy reason not
>>>>> to -- you all know the facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ann, any other intel?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Brian Fallon <
>>>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any update on this? As we consider fights that fit into the larger
>>>>>> themes we are trying to promote, this seems like a good fight to have.
>>>>>> Plus, the VP would be in a box of having to support this nominee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Ann O'Leary <
>>>>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting.  I'll do some asking around to see what folks in the
>>>>>>> public health world think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Mandy Grunwald <[email-masked]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about the guy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we weren't hitting the Administration with Keystone this week, I
>>>>>>>> might be tempted, but I think that probably makes it a bad idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets keep an eye on it and see about those Pharma ties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Mandy Grunwald*
>>>>>>>> *Grunwald Communications*
>>>>>>>> *202 973-9400 <202%20973-9400>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Jake Sullivan <[email-masked]>
>>>>>>>> To: Mandy Grunwald <[email-masked]>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]>; Joel Benenson <
>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>; bfallon <[email-masked]>;
>>>>>>>> Jennifer Palmieri <[email-masked]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 11:22 pm
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: F.D.A. Nominee Califf’s Ties to Drug Makers Worry Some
>>>>>>>> - The New York Times
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Mandy Grunwald
>>>>>>>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Do we want to weigh in on this?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/health/fda-nominee-califfs-ties-to-drug-industry-raise-questions.html
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Mandy Grunwald
>>>>>>>> > Grunwald Communications
>>>>>>>> > 202 973-9400
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ann O'Leary
>>>>>>> Senior Policy Advisor
>>>>>>> Hillary for America
>>>>>>> Cell: 510-717-5518
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ann O'Leary
>>> Senior Policy Advisor
>>> Hillary for America
>>> Cell: 510-717-5518
>>>
>>