Subject: Re: Cadillac tax
From: Brian Fallon <[email-masked]>
To: "Ann O'Leary" <[email-masked]>
Cc: Jennifer Palmieri <[email-masked]>, John Podesta <[email-masked]>, Joel Benenson <[email-masked]>, Mandy Grunwald <[email-masked]>, Robby Mook <[email-masked]>, Jake Sullivan <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:43:16 -0400

Can I ask what headline we are seeking with this? Because it strikes me as
a clever attempt to be both for and against the cadillac tax. Why arent we
just for outright repeal if we are going to cede back all the revenue
anyway by holding <250k harmless?

On Saturday, September 26, 2015, Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I think it is more Q of political question - if we need to do it for
> political reason, this may be good venue. John - What do you think about
> getting out there on it tomorrow?
>
>
> Ann O’Leary
> Sent from my iPhone
> (510) 717-5518 (cell)
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Jennifer Palmieri <
> [email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>
> It doesn't pass bar of news that would break through emails.  So I don't
> know that it is worth the effort.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>
> Jen/Brian - Do you all want to try to land repeal of Cadillac tax +
> applying tax to $250K and above on MTP? Need to lock it with HRC and set it
> up with unions if we are going to pull trigger tomorrow. Please advise.
>
>
> Ann O’Leary
> Sent from my iPhone
> (510) 717-5518 (cell)
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Jennifer Palmieri <
> [email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>
> It also will not break through as big news on MTP.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 2:27 PM, John Podesta <[email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>
> I think we will pay a huge price with the WH on this one. Worries me.
> On Sep 26, 2015 1:13 PM, "Ann O'Leary" <[email-masked]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>
>> +Podesta
>> Califf the Obama nominee does have real ties to the drug industry - Chris
>> Jennings is calling a few people for me to learn more so we don't tip our
>> hand directly. We are clean on Clinton Admin FDA Commissioner - it was
>> David Kessler, an academic who had run a teaching hospital - and best known
>> for taking on big tobacco.  We could certainly signal that we want someone
>> willing to stand up to Pharma (in the same way Kessler stood up to Tobacco).
>>
>> BUT - I want to do a little more digging and due diligence before we hit
>> this guy.  Having been through a nomination fight with my husband (in which
>> he lost), this is personal and messy and horrible on the person nominated
>> and their families - so I don't take attacking this guy lightly.
>>
>> Do you want to do it on Meet the Press?
>>
>> Also, as long as I have all of your attention - on Cadillac Tax - the
>> general consensus is that we should frame our position as Cadillac Tax
>> should be repealed but that we should tax people who make more than $250K
>> b/c they don't need to have tax-payer funded subsidies.  I have not nailed
>> this down with HRC.  Should I try to do that today if we are going to
>> announce this on Meet the Press?
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jake Sullivan <
>> [email-masked]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Better go look at WJC administration FDA nominees.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Jake Sullivan <
>>> [email-masked]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is ultimately a political call, not a policy call.  I don't really
>>>> like the idea of bashing this White House's nominees, knowing their vetting
>>>> process and standards.
>>>>
>>>> But if you guys want to do it, I cannot identify a policy reason not to
>>>> -- you all know the facts.
>>>>
>>>> Ann, any other intel?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Brian Fallon <
>>>> [email-masked]
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any update on this? As we consider fights that fit into the larger
>>>>> themes we are trying to promote, this seems like a good fight to have.
>>>>> Plus, the VP would be in a box of having to support this nominee.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Ann O'Leary <
>>>>> [email-masked]
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting.  I'll do some asking around to see what folks in the
>>>>>> public health world think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Mandy Grunwald <[email-masked]
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know anything about the guy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we weren't hitting the Administration with Keystone this week, I
>>>>>>> might be tempted, but I think that probably makes it a bad idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets keep an eye on it and see about those Pharma ties.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Mandy Grunwald*
>>>>>>> *Grunwald Communications*
>>>>>>> *202 973-9400 <202%20973-9400>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Jake Sullivan <[email-masked]
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>>
>>>>>>> To: Mandy Grunwald <[email-masked]
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>>
>>>>>>> Cc: Ann O'Leary <[email-masked]
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>>; Joel
>>>>>>> Benenson <[email-masked]
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>>; bfallon <
>>>>>>> [email-masked]
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>>;
>>>>>>> Jennifer Palmieri <[email-masked]
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 11:22 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: F.D.A. Nominee Califf’s Ties to Drug Makers Worry Some
>>>>>>> - The New York Times
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Mandy Grunwald
>>>>>>> <[email-masked] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[email-masked]');>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Do we want to weigh in on this?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/health/fda-nominee-califfs-ties-to-drug-industry-raise-questions.html
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Mandy Grunwald
>>>>>>> > Grunwald Communications
>>>>>>> > 202 973-9400
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ann O'Leary
>>>>>> Senior Policy Advisor
>>>>>> Hillary for America
>>>>>> Cell: 510-717-5518
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ann O'Leary
>> Senior Policy Advisor
>> Hillary for America
>> Cell: 510-717-5518
>>
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