Subject: Fwd: CLIP | MSNBC: Interview with DWS
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:30:13 -0400

This may require us to articulate the difference bt us and Bernie sooner
than we thought.

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From: Lily Adams <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:25 PM
Subject: Fwd: CLIP | MSNBC: Interview with DWS
To: HRCRR <[email-masked]>

This exchange is making the rounds.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *whatever is the difference between a democrat and
a socialist? i used to think there is a big difference. what do you think
it is?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *the difference between –

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *a democrat like hillary and a socialist between
bernie sanders. what's the big difference between a democrat and
a socialist? you're chairman of the democratic party. tell me the
difference.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *the relevant debate we'll be having what's the
difference between a democrat and a republican.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *i think there's a huge difference.

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Lily Adams
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*From:* Batul Contractor <[email-masked]>
*Date:* July 30, 2015 at 9:21:40 PM CDT
*To:* Clips <[email-masked]>
*Subject:* *CLIP | MSNBC: Interview with DWS*

*MSNBC’s Hardball with Chris Matthews, 7.30.15.*

Link:
http://mms.tveyes.com/PlaybackPortal.aspx?SavedEditID=a9a0ef9d-da00-4992-9b3a-2dbec93c46ac

Rough Transcript:

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *of course, that was florida congresswoman debby
wasserman schultz in 2008. not long ago. now hillary clinton is
running again and debby is the chair of the democratic committee. a long
primary campaign will only erode the benefit democrats are poised to reap
from the republicans' free for all. i'm convince that had a prolonged
debate will do us more harm than good. is he right? are we better off with
bernie noise against hillary or better off without him?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *i think eventually the nominee of both parties
benefits from having the muscle that they need exercised throughout
a primary. i think it atrophies if you don't get to discuss it. i think it
is healthy to have a debate throughout the contest. i don't think we'll
have a terribly long one.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *hillary clinton will probably win in iowa. new hampshire
will be very close. there could be an upset. won't that hurt to the
left? further left than she would want to go? won't that weaken her in
the general?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *what will happen throughout the primary and the
republican party. the contrast will be extremely clear. that any of our
candidates, hillary clinton, hillary clinton, bernie sanders,
lincoln chafee, any of them, will focus on moving our country
forward. continuing job growth that we've had under president obama
for more than five straight years. we were at 750 jobs a year.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *so he can beat jeb bush? linoln chafee? come on.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ:* the american people are with democrats.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *do you want to see bernie sanders speak at the
democratic convention? do you want him up there?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *bernie sanders –

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *do you want him on the floor of the convention?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *bernie sanders has been a good
democrat. caucuses with the democrats.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *she speak in prime time? with everybody watching?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *bernie sanders represents, we are a big time –

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *so the answer is yes.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ:* said yes. i can say yes again.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *in prime time.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *i don't know what time he should speak.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS:* maybe when nobody is watching, you mean.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *no. of course he should speak. he should speak
in a slot where the appeal that he has across the board, the progressive,
pop list message that he has that resonates deeply and widely with the
american people, not just democrats, absolutely that should be
featured. the difference between us and the republicans, we are really
a big party.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *whatever is the difference between a democrat and
a socialist? i used to think there is a big difference. what do you think
it is?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *the difference between –

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *a democrat like hillary and a socialist between
bernie sanders. what's the big difference between a democrat and
a socialist? you're chairman of the democratic party. tell me the
difference.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *the relevant debate we'll be having what's the
difference between a democrat and a republican.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *i think there's a huge difference.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *different between a democrat and republican is
that democrats fight to make sure everybody has an opportunity to
succeed. and the republicans are strangled by their right
wing extremists. so where, we're watching them debate. phasing out
medicare. and a candidate who actually said that president obama
would march israelis to the ovens. that's the kind of debate going on on
their side on. our side, we're talking about the best way that we can
make sure every american has a chance to reach the middle class.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *are you in or out of the deal? the nuclear deal?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *i'm taking my time to really know that deal
well. i'm going to go home and talk to my constituents.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS:* i'm with you on that. let me ask you a tough question. if
you vote it down, it is a -- if the congress votes it down. then you
basically voted a vote of no confidence against president's foreign
policy. the weird things is those on the right would say now we'll cut
a better deal. how can they trust obama cut a better deal if they knock
down the only plan?

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *the problem i see with people opposed to the
deal, the republicans, i think, have been very irresponsible. where they're
unilaterally immediately –

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *they're not looking at it.

*DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: *i have the. the number one decision, what
is the most likely scenario that prevents iran from getting a nuclear women
-- nuclear weapon. to make sure we can draw contrast and reemphasize
support to make sure everyone has access to health care throughout
the entirety of their lives. before medicare, seniors faced medical
bankruptcy, families were medically bankrupt. republicans like jeb bush
would phase out medicare. every republican on the other side why.

*CHRIS MATTHEWS: *that's a solid argument. thank you. debby wasserman
schultz.

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