Subject: Re: Thursday Night Debate
From: Charlie Baker <[email-masked]>
To: Robby Mook <[email-masked]>
Cc: John Podesta <[email-masked]>, Ron Klain <[email-masked]>, Karen Dunn <[email-masked]>, Jake Sullivan <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 17:33:42 -0500

No each campaign has a separate one

On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Robby Mook <[email-masked]> wrote:

Were Bernie's people on the call?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Charlie Baker <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> NBC is building set .. We just did a format call ( more later)
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 11:34 AM, John Podesta <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> One intangible factor--she wants this debate. We don't need to pay a
> king's ransom for it, but we should try to get it and not reverse on what
> constitutes best outcome.
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016, Charlie Baker <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> If Bernie makes this complicated  I think we reserve the room the debate
>> was going to happen in and do a town meeting there ( and invite Bernie to
>> join us)
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Robby Mook <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm on the phone with Jake.  We both agree she should continue to state
>> as a matter of fact that the debate is going to happen and she's looking
>> forward to it.  We should not concede a bunch of things we don't want in a
>> negotiation to make it happen, but we certainly shouldn't back away now.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Ron Klain <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John just told me that it was unhelpful to reignite this debate, so I
>>> apologize.  But I do think that we should not give away things we care
>>> about to make the debate happen.  If it doesn’t happen, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Karen Dunn [mailto:[email-masked]]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:03 AM
>>> *To:* Charlie Baker
>>> *Cc:* Ron Klain; [email-masked]; John Podesta (
>>> [email-masked]); Jake Sullivan
>>> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Night Debate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I continue to believe losing the rest is not such a loss since a) we
>>> will probably have to slap on more debates later anyway and b) Bernie has
>>> driven almost everything except the NH choice and if we no longer really
>>> want that, there is no reason to give in to all his many demands. In other
>>> words, I agree with Charlie and the question remains - how badly do we
>>> want/need thurs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Charlie Baker <[email-masked]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I expect him to hold out. Issue is if we cancel might lose the rest.. My
>>> own view is at least adebate a month would still happen if Bernie stays in
>>> and we want them
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Ron Klain <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this locked, or is Sanders still holding out?  If he is holding out,
>>> should we try to blow it up?  I know that HRC really wanted this debate on
>>> Thursday night, but we have  a town hall on Wednesday to get out our
>>> message, and I still hate the idea of debating on Thursday and then losing
>>> on Tuesday – and would prefer our first one-on-one with Bernie to come
>>> AFTER we lose in NH, and are on a path to comeback.
>>>
>>>
>>